The Transformation Of Mark Dice

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1. His explanation of Steven Crowder’s latest grifting episode with Daily Wire was excellent.

   • I’ll check it out. Thanks for the recommendation.

   • He never mentions Nicole Arbour’s video on Candace Owens in that video. This is a huge, red flag. He knows a lot more about what’s going on Conservative Inc. than he lets on in his trilogy, especially if he actually exchanged contact information with Steven Crowder.

2. Funny, there are a lot of things that irritate me about him. For all the good he’s done by speaking bluntly about stuff that a lot of other conservatives would shy away from, there’s a lot of issues that make me wary:

   • He still uses Patreon in spite of their history of arbitrarily banning users, and I suspect that will remain so even after he’s set up his own Locals account.
   • As I’ve mentioned before, he deliberately omitted the Nicole Arbour video on Candace Owens, which may or may not be because he tried hitching his wagon to her. His own Twitter bio mentions that he’s been on Fox News, OAN, and more.
   • He claims to be a devout Christian, but I have yet to see him seriously discuss theology, something that Michael Knowles of The Daily Wire does regularly. He contented himself with goofing on the Grammies whereas Knowles astutely pointed that what Kim Petras essentially said during the event was “I’d rather reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.”
   • He went to bat for Ilhan Omar by suggesting she was only branded an antisemite because she dared to criticize Israel, and he ignored the fact that Omar’s history of siding with America’s enemies was part of the reason, if not the determining factor, as to why she was kicked off of committees.
   • As much as he rags on other conservatives for bowing to Big Tech, he still does his damnedest to make sure that he doesn’t get banned on YouTube even though he could (potentially) amass a larger following on Rumble and Odyssee. This technically makes him controlled opposition, and I suspect he may be controlled opposition in the usual sense of the phrase. When was the last time he was even demonetized or had to seriously worry about being demonetized? I know he’s privated videos.
   • He may have started a scamming operation right after he graduated college. While it’s certainly not forbidden for a man to have flaws, but given just how many grifters there are, he’s going to have to address this sooner or later if he’s guilty.
   • He entered the pickup artist game some time ago, which is something he’s going to need to be transparent about if he makes a video on Andrew Tate.
   • His shilling of his books, clothing, and Patreon is getting annoying, and I think he’s only started to push the ergonomic products through Amazon affiliate links (and a pair of useful books in his video on a resurfaced gold scam) is because his own audience wailed on him for it. On the one hand, they’re his books, clothing, and Patreon, but on the other hand, he has a history of shilling his book on web forums.
   • He’s going to have to address this, this, this, why he deleted a video where mocks conspiracy theorists, why he deleted a video where he mocks conspiracy theories about the death of Robin Williams, why he deleted a parody video pertaining to Alex Jones, why he deleted videos mocking flat-earthers, his video on sex trafficking at the Super Bowl, and his video on the Milwaukee riot sooner or later, especially that last one. What could he possibly have said about BLM that he found so embarrassing in retrospect that he just had to delete the video?
   • He isn’t talking about the cornhusker kickback.
   • He was dumb enough to get into a flame war with Wikipedia.
   • He isn’t talking about Nick Fuentes despite the fact that the zoomer is a degenerate homosexual who pretends (see 5:41) to be a devoutly Christian right-winger who once told Mister Metokur in a debate that he disbelieves all women. In other words, Fuentes is exactly the kind of man he should despise.
   • He isn’t talking about Nerdrotic, Brittany Venti, Anthony Cumia, Chrissie Mayr, Geeks + Gamers, and many more grifters who are luring in conservatives, and their audience is mainly conservative, to feed the grift. To simply articulate the mountains of baggage that comes with these people, Cumia has creepy predilections towards teenaged girls. They all know this and continue to pal around with him, have him on their shows, etc.

   This is not to say that Dice should be cancelled, but his audience deserves to know just who the hell he is.

   • Great write-up, appreciate the share.

     Quite a few good points made here, although I am not quite sure about some of the points (such as the problem with Psalm 139:19 or why Knowles is mentioned in a good way—He is a Daily Wire sellout under the boot of Ben Shapiro and any person even peripherally related to them should never be trusted). Still, this list presents many valid contentions. You are well-versed in many of these characters, half of which I don’t even know (it appears my aversion to videos has paid off in that way, at least).

     Dice is definitely not perfect, but it appears these “softies” are being pushed more to the right, which was my main argument. What we’re doing is working, in some capacity. Whether Dice in particular is a grifter or is merely skirting the line to stay mainstream is still undetermined.

     • Grifter or towing the line to stay relevant, both are equally reprehensible because both mean Dice made a Faustian bargain, and those always end badly. I guarantee you that I only aired a fraction of the skeletons in his closet.

       If you think Michael Knowles is so transparently wrong on everything, and you are acting like he is, then why don’t you put your money where your mouth is and debate him? After all, if you’re right then you will easily trounce him, and if you’re wrong then the worst thing that will happen is that you’ll be proven wrong.

       • Grifter or towing the line to stay relevant, both are equally reprehensible

         Hard disagree there. Grifter is significantly worse because they are actively being malicious for worldly gain. While I don’t agree with the strategy, the idea with “towing the line” (maintaining mainstream access) is to convert normies and direct them over to a further right-wing position over time. Someone has to do it, we don’t all start out reading Oswald. Plus, that’s exactly what your guy Knowles does. He doesn’t cross Shapiro or anything that the Daily Wire says.

         If you think Michael Knowles is so transparently wrong on everything, and you are acting like he is, then why don’t you put your money where your mouth is and debate him?

         I never said his positions are wrong, I said he was exactly what you were claiming Dice is. I try not to make a habit out of listening to grifter organizations. I have no issue debating anyone at all, all they have to do is make an article about my positions they disagree with. But that’s probably not going to happen because I’m a small-timer. People with the big orgs rarely debate small-timers.

         Although I do find it humorous that you are so adamantly against Mark Dice because you surmise he is a grifter/mainstream-line-tower while defending the largest right-wing grifter operation happening in the United States right now: The Daily Wire. Which is where Knowles has been beholden by a Steven Crowder type contract for well over half of a decade. TDW is horrifically wicked and draining millions of dollars every month from causes that would actually make a difference for our people. They are doing far more damage than little ol’ Mark. Your perspectives seem off.