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The Four Positions On The System of Government Problem

Dissidents broadly fall into four camps when discussing the government system problem. Which position do you support?
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Should We Build A New Government?

Dissidents broadly fall into four camps when discussing the government system problem (e.g., what government system should we use and does it matter how we organize the political system?):

  • Restoration camp
  • Evade camp
  • Dismissive camp
  • Inventive camp

The type of government system we will use once we achieve victory matters. A lot.

It is one of the Three Essentials for a nation-state. This political system is incredibly important: The Importance Of The Government System.

To think we can use any old system and it will work for our interests is fanciful—History clearly demonstrates otherwise.

So, for this article, I’m going to be going through my thoughts on each camp.

The first camp includes those who want to restore some old system by changing a few meaningless things like constitutional amendments and some federal laws. They imagine we can “return to” a golden era by just reverting certain aspects to some prior point.

These individuals do not realize that the entire ride (the system) is downhill. All legacy systems are cyclical and doomed to collapse. If we return to a prior point, we will still just continue to go downhill. The only difference is that we will just start again from a preceding higher point.

This camp is usually the starting position of most young newcomers to this side of politics. Newcomers typically harbor hope on some things they’ve been indoctrinated with since birth (such as hope in the old “American Republic“). Usually, this gets stomped out over time with further knowledge.

I thoroughly debunked this position in this article: The Three Options: Restoration, Reformation, Or Revolution. So I won’t spend much time on it here. Go read that article if you are curious.

We should save everyone that we can from the restorationist camp. The quicker we get them past that stage, the better it is for us.

The second camp is those who do not want to actually address the system. They evade the question. These dissidents usually state they want to figure it out after the fact. They believe that we must win first and then figure out how to organize after.

I believe they do this because they have thought about the system question in-depth. For those who do, they realize how troublesome it becomes. So, it is easier to just avoid it. It’s a really hard question, and any affirmative answer opens up your position to massive criticism. Meanwhile, there is no criticism if you don’t ascribe to a system (if you just evade the issue).

This is why I believe that most who evade this question are generally disingenuous. I think they evade it purposefully, unlike the next camp.

This camp does not rationalize this position at all. Because they would never allow this kind of strategy in anything in the personal life.

Would you start a business but have no idea about the form or plan of the business?

Would you start a family but have only a minor idea of who will fill what roles?

Would you risk your livelihood for a philosophy that you don’t even know what it will teach?

None of those in the evade camp would start an organization, a community event, or anything else in their own personal life, and then just say “oh, I don’t have any plans or anything but we’ll just figure it out after I’ve already invested everything in it“.

Neither do they start a family by just going into a strip club, finding the nearest woman, and asking her to marry them and hoping everything works out.

Zero of these people would go invest their life savings but have zero idea of what they are going to invest in until after the deadline has already arrived and time pressure has begun.

No, they would all tell you to do the exact opposite: you need to plan extensively for the organization and you need to research the woman and test her vehemently before you’ll betroth her. And so on.

But when it comes to a government system—that would literally have some involvement in every single thing in their entire life—they just say we’ll figure it out later.

That position is horrifically negligent and thoughtless.

We need to have a rough outline of what our system will look like. If we don’t, we will fail like every other right-wing movement in modern history.

Then the third camp is those who think the system does not matter. They do not evade the question; they are vocally dismissive of its importance.

They do not understand the need for the system.

These right-wingers have read little about Franco or Pinochet. Their movements failed because they did not recognize the importance of the system. These two leaders did not input a sustainable system for when their power ended, so their nations immediately reverted back to the same course they were on prior once the leaders left power.

We need a functional system that can carry on the legacy of the correction. Without one, the founding generation will die-off, and then the entire nation will revert backwards. Which is what always happens without a proper system.

The people in this camp are misguided because they do not realize it could get even worse than it is now. Right now, you have the luxury of being able to read what I have written on this page.

There are some systems, like the Soviet one, that I would be too busy slaving away in the tundras of Alaska to write this. And you would probably be right across from me in the next ditch over, so we couldn’t talk.

There are a lot worse systems. You should be thankful for the one that we have right now, even though it is complete trash. Say thanks that the trash is not yet completely engulfed in flames. But we should still work to find a better one before just trying to overthrow it. Otherwise, we may accidentally make it even worse.

We use the logic of Chesterton’s Fence against the leftists all the time, but it applies to us, as well: “The principle that reforms should not be made until the reasoning behind the existing state of affairs is understood.” To just dismiss the importance of the system is to dismiss everything about the existing state of affairs, because many of those problematic affairs come from the system. Many others will come from other systems.

We need a better, sustainable system before we overcome this one.

But we can’t do that if we evade the question entirely, try to restore some old failed system, or by dismissing the problem entirely.

Finally, we are left with the inventive camp. This is the one that I—and most of my long-term readers—are in.

This is the one where we recognize the importance of the system. We realize that we need a new one that actually works, functions correctly, and is sustainable.

The system may not be the most important thing (I’d argue that the nation and the national soul are more important), but that does not mean it’s to be completely neglected.

It is very important that we do our due diligence in trying to build a future system that will work for us now, before we have the chance to implement it. To influence those future leaders and builders to create something that can last for a long time and be fruitful for our people.

Otherwise, we’re going to keep trying the same thing over and over again. We’re going to keep failing. And it’s going to continually get way worse for us, especially because of technology and the ability of the leftists to control and dominate with a wider reach.

We may not have that much time left. We need a system that can preserve a remnant, because none of the others have proven capable of doing so.

So, a lot of my writing is trying to convince dissidents to get into this fourth camp. To start thinking about potential system solutions. What current form of government would actually sustain and enrich our people? My answer is none—We need something entirely new. But your answer may differ from mine. And yours may be right. I don’t know.

But what I do know is that we need more people discussing this. Otherwise, we’ll just be another failed generation-long experiment before modernity seizes control yet again.

I don’t want my people to be just another casualty. I want us to win. To do that, we need a system that will get us there.

We don’t have that right now. Honestly, we don’t even have people talking about it much right now.

But that can change. Let’s start that discussion now.

Join the fourth camp.

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Kaisar
Kaisar

Kaîsar is the sole owner of The Hidden Dominion. He writes on a wide range of topics including politics, governmental frameworks, nationalism, and Christianity.

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